Comments on: Kick More Butt, Use Less Effort: Web Apps on Web Services (Part 1)

By: Alfonso Pursell

Alfonso Pursell — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:47:38 +0000

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By: Lai Park

Lai Park — Fri, 07 May 2010 21:08:11 +0000

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By: kinglove

kinglove — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:19:44 +0000

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By: BigJ

BigJ — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:45:03 +0000

Not so fast bucko! WS is hardly dead. In fact, most businesses I encounter are just getting in the WS groove. Likely due to the maturity of the tool sets.

REST may be on the radar but it’s still either an unknown or dismissed as ’something else’ they have to ‘deal with’.

By: Standing On The Brink » Blog Archive » Embedded SOAP Web Services: Where’s the Value?

Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:03:24 +0000

Here are my thoughtsâ€¦

By: Steve Vinoski

Steve Vinoski — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:52:31 +0000

Cory: I think you’re missing my point, which is that WS-* is *not* preferable to REST. WSDL creates a tight coupling between the client and service which no amount of XML versioning can hope to alleviate. Code generation is brittle, can create unnecessary data definition dependencies, and inhibits extensibility. The industry has by and large learned this well over the past few years, which is why I mentioned 2004 in my blog about this. WS-* is practically dead.

WSDL and code generation try to give distributed systems the appearance of being local, ala RPC, only for the purpose of making the developer’s life easier, but in doing they create big problems. That’s why I mentioned 1994 and pointed to the “Note on Distributed Computing” paper, which covers this quite well.

You might want to read my latest IEEE Internet Computing columns on this topic, as those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it:

Assuming you apply it correctly, REST is far, far preferable to what you’ve described above.

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WS Time Warp? :: Steve Vinoski’s Blog — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:41:06 +0000

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By: Kick More Butt, Use Less Effort: Web Apps on Web Services (Part 1)

Kick More Butt, Use Less Effort: Web Apps on Web Services (Part 1) — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:12:02 +0000

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